Thomas [Hill] de Neenton

Personal and Family Information

Thomas was born about 1280, the son of Warren [Hill] de Neenton and Joan. The place is not known.

Pedigree Chart (3 generations)

Events

Notes

Note 1

!Stylename: Rector Thomas de Neenton [~1280-?]

Notes: for Rector Thomas de Neenton.

In Eyton’s Antiquities of Shropshire and other sources, the style “de Neenton” consistently denotes only actual residents at Neenton. Warrin de Neenton was already styled “de Neenton” in 1328, his wife Joan in 1279 and his son Hugh and Hugh’s daughter Alice in 1328. Thus, Rector Thomas de Neenton would also be of the same family and most likely a son to Warren and Joan, serving as rector of the family’s own parish during the early fourteenth century.

!Source: https://archive.org/stream/antiquitiesshro15eytogoog/antiquitiesshro15eytogoog_djvu.txt

https://archive.org/stream/antiquitiesshro15eytogoog/antiquitiesshro15eytogoog_djvu.txt

[This is a rather poor OCR rading of the text. I have corrected where I can that which is obvious.]

…, Again in 1274, Ralph d'Arraz was a Justice for gaol-delivery at

Shrewsbury. From this time for twenty years, the name is con-

stantly occurring in matters of general rather than local import.

But in Nov.* 1279, Joan de Neuton, Lady of Neuton, presented to <<<<

the Church of Neuton, a circumstance which seems to indicate

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NEENTON.

the previous death of the first Ralph d’Arraz and the survival of

his Widow the heiress of Neenton whose age at this period will

have been very great….

Sir Richard de Tedestile, Priest, was admitted Nov. 12, 1279,

on presentation of Dame Joan de Neuton, Lady of Neuton. He <<<<

doubtless was that Richard, Rector of Nenton, who attests a

deed between 1283 and 1300, already quoted.

!Source: https://www.melocki.org.uk/diocese/Neenton.html

Date Benefice Presentee Patron Previously Cause

1294 Oct 28 Neenton. Ralph de Arraz. .

1294 Oct 28 Neenton. William de Skelly, priest. The bishop.

1304 Nov 17 Neenton. Thomas de Neenton, priest. The bishop. <<<< Has to be Warren’s son.

!Source: http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_194_11.shtml

CP 25/1/194/11, number 5.

Link: Image of document at AALT http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/CP25%281%29/CP_25_1_194/IMG_0007.htm

County: Shropshire.

Place: York.

Date: One week from St. Michael, 2 Edward III [6 October 1328].

Parties: Hugh, son of Warin de Neenton, and Joan, his wife, querents, by William Milsent, put in the place of Joan, and Thomas, the parson of the church of Neenton', deforciant.

Property: 2 messuages, 1 virgate and 3 nooks of land and a fourth part of 1 messuage in Neenton'.

Action: Plea of covenant.

Agreement: Hugh has acknowledged the tenements to be the right of Thomas, as those which Thomas has of his gift.

For this: Thomas has granted to Hugh and Joan the tenements and has rendered them to them in the court, to hold to Hugh and Joan and the heirs of their bodies, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders [1] to Alice, daughter of the same Hugh, and the heirs of her body, [2] to John, son of Philip le Taillour, and the male heirs of his body, [3] to Richard, son of Walter le Taillour, and the male heirs of his body and [4] >>> to John, son of Roger Hawys, and his heirs. <<<

Standardised forms of names. [These are tentative suggestions, intended only as a finding aid.]

Persons: Warin de Neenton, >>> Hugh de Neenton, Joan de Neenton <<<, William Millicent, Thomas, Alice de Neenton, Philip le Taylor, John le Taylor, Walter le Taylor, Richard le Taylor, Roger Hawes, John Hawes

Places: Neenton

Note: from image although partially in Latin, this actually reads:

>>> John fil Rogi Hochkys & his heirs. <<<

It does not say Hawys. What was read as a W is actually CHK.

John would be the 4th choice if Hugh and Joan had no living heirs of their body. These are usually related in other ways, like brothers, cousins, etc.

This means that Roger is likely to be a brother to Hugh or Joan. Hugh could be their son, but this Hugh’s father was Warin de Neenton,rather than John. That would leave things like son-in-law or nephew. Looking at the dates, Warren might be, Hugh le Mon de Hokswod’s brother, so that he was naming his grandchildren and his great-nephew. This might have been everyone in that generation at the time.

The fine demonstrates that the Hochkys line was already integrated into the Neenton descent by 1328, almost certainly as collateral kin to Hugh son of Warin.

Note: There was a princess descended from the Welsh Powys who had Hawys [How wise] for a first name. She was having children in 1355. It later became a surname, but not related to Hotchkiss.

Note: Roger Mortimer ]1287–1330] was the powerful Marcher lord who became the lover of Queen Isabella

and ruled England in her name after deposing Edward II. He was created Earl of March in 1328—the

same year Hugh de Neenton’s land settlement was made “to hold of the chief lords forever,” i.e.

under Mortimer’s lordship. Just two years later, Mortimer was overthrown by the young Edward III,

condemned without trial, and hanged at Tyburn. His vast estates were forfeited to the Crown.

Effect on Neenton: With Mortimer’s fall, the Neenton lands passed from his overlordship into the

direct control of the Crown, so the de Neenton family’s tenure continued but their “chief lord”

changed from Mortimer to the king.

Note: The Joan listed here is the wife of Hugh. She would be too Young to be the Joan de Neenton in Eyton above.