Ida Odengsells

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Personal and Family Information

Ida was born about 1265 in England, the daughter of unknown parents.

She died about 1325 in Wroxall, Warwickshire, England.

She had two marriages/partners. Her first husband was Roger Hereburgh. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. Their only known child was Ela (c1282-1343).

Her second husband was John de Clinton. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. They had no known children.

Events

EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1265
Place: England
DeathABT 1325
Place: Wroxall, Warwickshire, England

Notes

Note 1

!Source: Ida de Clinton https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Odingsells-7

Born about 1265 [uncertain] in England

Died about 1325 [uncertain] at about age 60 in Wroxall, Warwickshire, England [uncertain]

Ida de Clinton formerly Odingsells aka de Herdeburgh, de Oddingseles edit

Daughter of William de Oddingseles and Ela de Oddingseles edit

Sister of Ela Purcel, Alice de Caunton, Edmund de Oddingseles and Margaret Moreby add sibling

Wife of Roger de Herdeburgh — married before 1282 in England map icon

Wife of John de Clinton — married after 29 Sep 1286 in England map icon add/edit spouses

Mother of Ela Boteler, Isabel de Hulles, Joan de Mascy, John de Clinton Esq and William Clinton KB add/edit children

Biography

Ida de Oddingseles, born about 1265, was the eldest daughter and co-heiress of William de Oddingseles, Knt., of Solihull, Warwickshire and Ela Fitz Walter, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert, Knt.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]

She married first to Roger de Herdeburgh, Knt., of Prilleston, Norfolk, son and heir of Sir Hugh de Herdeburgh and Isabel de Turville.[1][2][10] The date and place of their marriage are unknown. They had two daughters:

Ela, wife of Sir Walter de Hopton, and of William le Boteler[1][2]

Isabel, died before 1316, wife of John de Hulles[1][2]

Roger de Herdeburgh died before 9 February 1284.[2][11] The manor of Prilleston , Norfolk, was settled on Ida for her life, with remainder to her daughters Ela and Isabel.[12][13]

Ida married second after 29 September 1286 to John de Clinton , Knt., 1st Lord Clinton, second but first surviving son and heir of Thomas de Clinton and Maud de Bracebridge.[1][2][14][15] They had three sons and two daughters:

John, Knt., 2nd Lord Clinton[1] died before 1 April 1335, married Margery Corbett[2]

William, Knt., Earl of Huntingdon, Lord Clinton,[1] died testate in August 1351, married Juliane de Leybourne, no surviving issue[2]

Thomas[1][2]

Joan, wife of Edmund Deincourt then Hamo de Mascy[1][2]

[probably] Elizabeth, wife of Sir Eble de Mounts, no known issue[1][2]

In 1295, Ida was co-heiress to her brother, Edmund, inheriting manors in Warwickshire and a share of a manor in Hertfordshire.[2]

Sir John de Clinton died before 7 January 1310/11. Ida was one of the ladies of the Queen's Chamber in 1311-1312 and she had protections to travel overseas with Queen Isabel in May 1313 and February 1313/4.[2] It was stated that Ida died testate in 1325 while serving as Prioress of Wroxall.[1][2] However, recent discussion [2017] has cast doubt on whether she was Prioress of Wroxall and a date of death of 1325, though she does appear to have died by Trinity 1328.[16]

NB A Papal Petition of 1352[17] confirms the link between the de Herdeburghs / le Botillers and the de Clintons. The petition was from the earl of Huntingdon on behalf of his nephew Edward Botillere for the canon and prebendary of Lincoln. William de Clinton, earl of Huntingdon was the son of John de Clinton and Ida de Odingseles, and Edward le Boteler was the son of Ela de Herdeburgh, daughter of Ida and Roger de Herdeburgh.

Sources

↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham , vol. II, pages 259-263 CLINTON 9 and 9.iii.

↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011, vol. I, pages 513-517, CLINTON 4.

↑ T W King Some Observations relating to Four Deeds from the Muniment Room at Maxstoke Castle, co. Warwick. Archaeologia. Vol 38, Issue 2, pp272-279 HathiTrust.

↑ W L Bowles and J G Nichols. Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey, in the County of Wilts. 1835, p163 Internet Archive.

↑ G Wrottesley. Extracts from the Plea Rolls, A.D. 1294 to A.D. 1307. Collections for a History of Staffordshire. Vol VII, 1886, p64 Internet Archive.

↑ G Wrottesley Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls Collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office. p544-545 Internet Archive.

↑ 'Parishes: Pirton', in A History of the County of Hertford: Volume 3, ed. William Page , pp. 44-51. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/herts/vol3/pp44-51.

↑ 'Parishes: Solihull', in A History of the County of Warwick: Volume 4, Hemlingford Hundred, ed. L F Salzman , pp. 214-229. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/warks/vol4/pp214-229.

↑ 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 73', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 3, Edward I, ed. J.E.E.S. Sharp and A.E. Stamp , pp. 183-196. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp183-196. Inquisition Post Mortem of William de Oddingeseles. Items 286 & 287.

↑ Antiquities of Warwickshire. By Sir William Dugdale. Second Edition, Vol. I, 1730, p92 HathiTrust.

↑ Calendar of the Close Rolls, Preserved in the Public Record Office. Edward I. AD 1279-1288. HMSO, 1902, p424-425 Internet Archive.

↑ An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk. By Francis Blomefield. Vol. V, 1806, p319 Internet Archive.

↑ Feudal Aids. Vol. 3, 1904, p478 Internet Archive.

↑ The Complete Peerage. Vol III. Canonteign to Cutts. 1913, p312-313 Internet Archive.

↑ The Clinton Family II. The Ancestor. Vol 10, 1904, p32-51 Internet Archive.

↑ Margaret de Grey, born Oddingsel. Thread of 2017 Soc. Gen. Medieval SGM.

↑ Calendar of entries in the Papal Registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland. Petitions to the Pope. 1342-1419. Vol. I, 1896, p237 Internet Archive.

See also:

A Genealogical Account of Clinton, Earl of Lincoln. The British Magazine. Dec 1762, pp625-634 Google Books.

W H Jones The Nomina Villarum for Wiltshire. Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Magazine. Vol XII, 1869, pp1-43 Internet Archive.

Collins's Peerage of England. Vol II, 1812, p183-184 Internet Archive.

Calendar of the Close Rolls, Preserved in the Public Record Office. Edward II. AD 1313-1318. HMSO, 1893, p11-12 Internet Archive.

Third Report of the Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts. 1872 , p262 HathiTrust.

Calendar of the Patent Rolls. Edward II. AD 1321-1324. HMSO, 1904, p70 Internet Archive.

Index of Placita de Banco 1327-1328. Part II. PRO Lists and Indexes No. XXXII, Reprinted 1963, p681 & 685 Internet Archive.

Calendar of Chancery Warrants. A.D. 1244-1326. HMSO, 1927, p533 HathiTrust.

'Houses of Benedictine nuns: Priory of Wroxall', in A History of the County of Warwick: Volume 2, ed. William Page , pp. 70-73. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/warks/vol2/pp70-73.

Monasticon Anglicanum. Vol. IV, 1846, p89 HathiTrust

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/J94Jz3rGq_w

Lewis, Marlyn. Ida de Odingsells, entry in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins".

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Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed and approved for the Magna Carta Project by Thiessen-117 22:04, 27 February 2020 .

Ida de Oddingseles is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Robert Fitz Walter in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:

William Asfordby: badged September 2022. See this trail HERE.*Walter Aston : trail was badged in June 2021 and is set out HERE.

Thomas Booth : trail was badged in April 2016 and is set out HERE.

Obadiah Bruen: trail was badged in March 2021 and is set out HERE.

Grace Chetwode: trail was badged in January 2023. See it HERE.

Agnes Mackworth: trail was badged in April 2022. See the trail HERE.

Anne Skipwith: badged September 2022. See the trail HERE.

Skipwith Gateways .

Margaret Toutville : badged 1 January 2025. See the trail HERE.

Ida appears in an unbadged trail between FitzWalter and the following Gateway:

Richard Saltonstall : trail needs development. See the trail HERE.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".