Joan was born about 1287, the daughter of unknown parents. The place is not known.
Her husband was Andrew Hawkins. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. Their three known children were Margery (c1304-?), Richard (c1332-c1400) and John (c1333->1374).
| Event | Date | Details | Source | Multimedia | Notes |
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| Birth | ABT 1287 |
Note 1
!NOTE: THE FOLLOWING BOOK, PUBLISHED 1798 SPEAKS OF ANDREW HAWKINS OF YORKSHIRE INHERITING NASH [IN KENT] BY HIS WIFE JOAN DE NASH. I WILL TAKE THIS AS A RELIABLE SOURCE AND NOT PART OF AN INTERNET HOAX.
!Note: I don’t know if Joan was really the name of Andrew’s wife. However, it is very likely, given the actions of William and John, that Andrew and Joan, or whtever her name was, made Nash court as their home. She was recorded with this name hundreds of years ago, and family records were burned along the way, so I can go with that there were likely records which showed her name which were lost.
!Source: Edward Hasted, The history and topographical survey of the county of Kent, second edition, volume 7, Canterbury 1798
https://www.durobrivis.net/hasted/octavo/1798-hasted-o-07.pdf
NASH is a mansion of account here, for having been
the seat of the family of Hawkins, as is apparent, as
well from records as from their own private evidences,
for some centuries past, and where they still reside in
their original gentility. >>> The first of them that I find
mention of, is Andrew Hawkins, who had a good
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estate in the liberty of Holderness, in Yorkshire, as ap=
pears by an inquisition taken anno 17 Edward III. and
left by his wife Joane de Nash, by whom he inherited
this seat of Nash, two sons, Richard and John, the
latter of whom purchased lands in Boughton in the be=
ginning of the reign of king Richard II <<<. His son John
Hawkins, esq. was of Nash, which continued in his
descendants down to Thomas Hawkins, esq. of Nash,
who dying in 1588, æt. 101, was buried with his wife
in the north chancel of this church, under a tomb of
Bethersden marble, on which is his figure in brass, and
an inscription, which says he served king Henry VIII.
which won him fame, who was a gracious prince to
him, and made well to spend his aged days; that he was
high of stature, his body long and strong, excelling all
that lived in his age. His only son Sir Thomas Haw=
kins, likewise resided at Nash, whose eldest son Sir
Thomas Hawkins, of Nash, was a person of fine ac=
complishments and learning, and among other works
translated Causinus’s Holy Court, and died in 1640./e
In whose descendants resident at Nash, who lie all of
them buried in the north chancel of this church, this
seat at length continued down to Thomas Hawkins,
esq. of Nash, who rebuilt this seat, of which he died
possessed in 1766, æt. 92. In whose time, anno 1715,
during the ferment the nation was thrown into on ac=
count of the rebellion in Scotland, this family being of
the Roman Catholic persuasion, the seat of Nash was
plundered by some of the neighburhood. Every part
of the furniture, family pictures, writings of the estate
and family, &c. were burnt by them, with an excellent
library of books; and the family plate was carried off,
and never heard of afterwards. Of his sons, John the
eldest became his heir, and Edward-Thomas possessed
the Gower estate, at Colmans, in Worcestershire, and
took the name of Gower. John Hawkins, esq. the eldest
/e See Wood’s Ath. Ox. vol. ii. col. 261.
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son, on his father’s death, became possessed of Nash, and
married Susan, daughter of Robert Constantine, esq.
of Dorsetshire, by whom he had two sons, to the eldest
of whom, Thomas, he in his life-time gave up this seat,
together with his other estates in this county. Thomas
Hawkins, esq. married Mary, the daughter of John
Bradshaw, esq. of London, descended from those of
Stretton, in Cheshire, by whom he has four daughters.
He resides at Nash, to which, with the grounds belong=
ing to it, he has made great additions and improve=
ments. The house is a large handsome building, plea=
santly situated on the summit of the hill, having a fine
prospect over the adjoining country, and has been fitted
up within these few years with much taste in the modern
stile. He bears for his arms, first and fourth, Haw=
kins, argent, on a saltire, sable, five fleurs de lis, or; se=
cond and third, Hames, azure, a chevron between three
demi lions, rampant, or./f
…,
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…,
BOUGHTON is within the ECCLESIASTICAL JURIS=
DICTION of the diocese of Canterbury, and deanry of
Ospringe.
The church, which is dedicated to St. Peter and St.
Paul, consists of a body and two isles, a high chancel
belonging to the parsonage, and two side chancels or
chapels. The north one, formerly St. James’s chapel,
belongs to the seat of Nash, and is filled with the mo=
numents of the Hawkins family; ….
!Source: Greenwood 1838–9 C. Greenwood, An epitome of county
history – vol. I – county of Kent . page 247.
https://www.durobrivis.net/library/1838-greenwood.pdf
Nash Court, in the Parish of Boughton-under-Blean, is a good house, and
situated in a small pleasant park, but having been uninhabited for many years, it
is in a very dilapidated state.
Nash, or Nash Court, for many centuries past, was the residence and property of the catholic family
of Hawkins. The first of this name, connected with this seat, was Andrew Hawkins, of Holderness, in
Yorkshire, who inherited Nash in right of his wife, Joane de Nash, in the reign of Edward III. from
whose descendants it has never been alienated. The present mansion was built by Thomas Hawkins,
Esq. who died in 1766, aged 92. In the year 1715, during the agitation arising from the rebellion in
Scotland, Nash Court was plundered by the populace, and the furniture, pictures, a good library, and
the deeds of the estate, were burnt, and the family plate carried off.
!Source: Andrew Haukyn https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hawkins-226
This and other sources have discredited work on Andrew Hawkins and especially on joan de Nash. I gave a resonse to this entry as below:
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Unfortunately this is less than convincing. First, if there was indeed some conspiracy, it happened by at least the time of the 1619 Visitation of Kent and not on the internet. Inquisitions, such as you mentioned are done for a particular property. In this case saying that, "Margery his daughter, aged 2 1/2, is his next heir", does not necessarily imply that he has no other children, but rather that none others are eligible here, and that her dowry needs to be set. This could easily just mean that any others, such as the two sons mentioned in the visitation, had already received their inheritance, perhaps while Andrew was alive, and were thus not eligible here. I will agree that genealogists sometimes mess with dates too much. However, records from this time period rarely give birth or date information, but usually someplace in between. Thus, it is necessary to make educated approximations. Yes, some very dumb people have tried to move people hundreds of years in order to claim relationships. He was not fathered by Osbert and his daughter didn't marry William Amadas. However, that Margaret may well have been his great-grand daughter and so far I have found exactly one Hawkins as a possibility for her father. I have no idea if Joan de Nash is real, but she was mentioned at least as early as 1798 . Your note, however, has totally sabotaged the genealogy of this family, to where nobody knows whether to discredit any of the work that has been done for hundreds of years. For my part a visitation is supposed to be a validated document from that time period, although occasional mistakes get through. I will take it as an original source, unless the College of Arms specifically says that it is wrong or you can actually show some proof. Also, the internet is a wonderful tool for genealogists, making sources, including translations and extracts and even images from this time period available at a touch of the keyboard. It is possible to do things which would have taken years of work, and weeks of travel to accomplish before the internet, if they could have been done at all.
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posted Apr 13, 2025 by You
edited Apr 13, 2025 by You